Sports manifold is available now.
Introduction price: € 199,-
Contact for National and International orders.
De Snelle Leeuw
Californiedreef 45
3565 BK Utrecht
+31-(0)302627532
www.desnelleleeuw.nl
info@desnelleleeuw.nl
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My order has arrived at De Snelle Leeuw. All new C1Cup Manifold and exhaust.
UPDATE
Kit is installed. Looks good, nice quality, fits pretty good (except the holes on the manifold need to be adjusted a little). You don't have to take your front bumper of to install.
My initial thoughts.
Rear silencer is really quiet. It's sounds nice and sporty but very social.
Performance, it feels like I have move power over the whole rev range, you can feel it when you drive. 2500 rpm to drive 100Km/h. I am on a Dyno next week to get some real performance numbers. Stay tuned!!
For the dutch readers.
I'll put all info on de Citybugclub forum (need to be a member first) when I have some time.
UPDATE 1
Price update.
Manifold - €199
Middle pipe - ?
Exhaust - ?
When available orders can be shipped internationally.
UPDATE 2
- Yesterday my engine light went on, I had it checked and it looks like this sports Cat is on the limit of what the Computer allows. So no problem just a Cat sensor.
I am checking if the chip people can fix this in the computer.
For the dutch readers.
I'll put all info on de Citybugclub forum (need to be a member first) when I have some time.
UPDATE 1
Price update.
Manifold - €199
Middle pipe - ?
Exhaust - ?
When available orders can be shipped internationally.
UPDATE 2
- Yesterday my engine light went on, I had it checked and it looks like this sports Cat is on the limit of what the Computer allows. So no problem just a Cat sensor.
I am checking if the chip people can fix this in the computer.
UPDATE 3
Did a dyno run today.
Here are the results
80.6BHP @ 5665RPM - 119Nm @ 2942RPM that about 5-6HP increase.
A bit weird as the dyno run after chiptuning (few months ago) is much higher.
But today's data look much more realistic.
UPDATE 5
We've fixed the Cat. I've been in contact with the fabricator in Italy through a contact from C1 Aygo 107 Club Italy, we've moved the sensor to the back of the Cat and it seems to be working. A bit stupit that it was something as simple as that. I made a trip of 310Km today and the engine light did not switch on.
UPDATE 6 Final production model arrived for one final test.
UPDATE 7 Final product for sale. see top of this post.
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I'm from Denmark.As you mention that 380 euro/section(Italy).How many parts that I need to complete this exhaust system ? BTW I'm waiting for your dyno run result.Perhaps it's can reach 95 hp or up!!Who's know?
There 3 sections. Manifold, Middle tube with Cat and the silencer.
€199
When available, orders can be shipped internation
Waiting for the price of the other 2 components.
also i think the size of the original muffler pipe doesn't the middle pipe, i think the pipe size is bigger of the new pipe ?
Guido said:
"- Yesterday my engine light went on, I had it checked and it looks like this sports Cat is on the limit of what the Computer allows. So no problem just a Cat sensor."
I've viewed the pictures, a little confused myself there. Two lambda sensor before the catalyst?
For OBD-2 vehicle is usually a sensor before and one after the catalytic converter installed.
Could that be the error?
greetz niesse
greetz niels
greets
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the 80.6hp is with Air filter and chip.
manifold is 199 euro, don't know the price for the mid pipe with Cat and silencer.
in a couple of weeks they have a new updated version available.
You can order it from Italy or from de snelle leeuw I am sure they both will ship internation as long as they get their money :-)
The Italian version will be around 300 euro. De Snelle Leeuw version wich is the one I have will be 200 euro.
De 200 euro version will be available in dec Jan. The Italian one is available right now.
Will have a dyno run in 2 weeks.
chipped, exhaust + monifold
And do you now what the complete price is forgetting it all mounted on the car ad DSL?
First of all, I'm really impressed with this blog; congratulations, Guido! You really share valuable information.
I have a C1 and the crazy idea of "optimizing" it, just as you have done. After many searching and trying to contact the old C1 Cup organizers (Gruppo Peronni) and the italian company Motorquality, I finally found your blog. And you have everything that I want!
I must say nevertheless that the Motorquality produces a camshaft which offers 85 hp along with a sport exhaust. Unfortunetally, it's out of stock now (and they are wholesalers; but that's another story...).
Going back to the modifications done by you, I had in mind the same question as Filip: is the manifold worth it? Actually, in the Web site of the Balance Motorsport company (http://www.balancemotorsport.co.uk, look up for C1 products) they offer the sport exhaust for 383 pounds (without the manifold, apparently) and they say there is a gain of 6 hp (checked on Dyno run; you can even see it on Youtube). So what's the gain with the manifold then?
Thank you in advance for your reply and I hope to keep in touch with you, guys, to show you the final result of my "optimized" C1 ;-)
Best regards!
Ismael from Spain
I see now that the exhaust you talk about is different, and I understand the need of a cat + manifold by DSL (C1 Cup).
Anyway, is the result better than the one from Balance Motorsport?
In this company they tell me that nowadays it's not allowed to install a sport cat + manifold on post 2001 cars and that their exhaust works very well on the standard cat and manifold.
Thanks for you reply!
Best regards,
Ismael
Can you give me a bit more info about the camshaft?
The Balance Motorsport exhaust is really good. I think the rules of the Cat is a bit different in each country so you might want to check in Spain. As I understand here in the Netherlands, your car needs to apply the EU regulations but that doesn't mean you cannot use a different Cat. So as long as your exhaust gasses are within the regulations it should be fine. But please check what the rules are in the Spain. Also don't expect to add the Horsepower of each component, Manifold, exhaust 6. YOu might not get 12hp more. These 1 ltr engines can't do miracles.
Knowing that they are peogot tunners.
Thanks a lot for your reply.
And thanks for the clarification: actually, I thought I could add the hp of each component... now I see I was wrong...
About the camshaft: it seems a good option to "squeeze" more this nice 1 litre engine. As I posted, the Italian Motorquality company says you can reach 85 hp with their camshaft and exhaust system. All I can do is give you the contact of the person I talked to: she is Cristina Longo and her email is clongo@motorquality.it (don't expect a quick answer ;-)
They are wholesalers and she told me that the camshaft is "out of stock" now, but literally "they can quote for large quantities". I guess if you guys in the Netherlandans order many of them they may build them for you, who knows...
Another option is to order the camshaft to Balance Motorsport. I talked to a nice guy named Julian (info@balancemotorsport.co.uk) and he told me that they can design a camshaft for you if you supply them with an old one; but he can't assure what hp gain can be reached.
I'm also waiting for the answer of a Spanish racing company about the modifications, but I guess they work "locally" so I don't know if the would ship their components abroad.
I'll keep you informed of any news.
Best regards,
Ismael
Can you contact me directly at
guidom @ zonnet . nl
Hoe heb je dat precies gedaan met je katalysator, hebben ze bij de snelle leeuw die ook te koop zo ja wat koste die dan?
Gr Arjan
Sonde zit daarin.
Ik zou naar NM parts gaan voor de midden pijp en het spruitstuk bij DSL kopen.
Motor management geeft wel Cat error met een andere Cat. Zijn we nog mee bezig om op te lossen.
Spruitstuk kost 199euro
Any news on when the whole kit will be available? - Including middle pipe/cat and exhaust?
/MadsBen
I have the front spoilers and the side skirts, you can find it on my site, use the seach function.
I got only 2 questions ....
whats the size of manifold ? and if the manifold will fit on castom exhaust with 3" pipes from MIJ for example ?
Thank you for your answare !